橋牌教室 (四)

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橋牌教室 (四)

Postby willy » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:20 pm

可能我昨天教人個heart感動咗個天, 今日多咗人聽我吹水.

wi: 大家都咁準時....
wi: ni...只係遲咗五分鐘, 一定係刷理牙...才來...
do: haha ...
do: maybe finished OC
ni: no呀
wi: 可以開始了嗎?
ni: bath
wi: 可以
do: ok...i join
wi: 今日係第四日....講bidding
wi: 但想補充一下昨天....etiquette
wi: 打橋牌是係唔可以同partner...講任何野....
ni: yup
ni: o
do: understand
wi: 否則就係table talking
ni: 哈哈...be上次犯規了
do: that's why ... you need to delete whisper
do: only delete whisper to your partner only
wi: 而電腦世界內....亦唔可以whisper, MSN....
be: 原來係咁...
wi: 否則好唔道德...
be: 原來咁嚴重
do: like you copy homework
do: hahahahahah
wi: dummy....全場唔駛打牌....唔可以教partner (declarer)玩...
be: 咁係weweweb會否當player玩bridge時刪除whispher channel
wi: ok..next is bidding....
wi: 冇用...可以msn
do: right ...
be: 咁即係要自律喇
do: u need behave yourself
do: if u don't ... win is meanless
wi: 有一次我聽到有人話...初學叫二三階(level)就好....
wi: 咁係唔啱....
be: 咁當一對partner同另一對partner玩時, 如何定dummy 及declarer?
wi: 要由小小理論開始
do: eee ... today only TALK ... no play?
wi: 先叫那門花的就係declarer
wi: ok...pay attention now...
wi: there are a term called High Card Point (HCP) in bridge
wi: usually HCP is counted as follows:
wi: A = 4, K = 3, Q = 2, J = 1
wi: a deck has totally 40 HCP
do: right ... full set card ... total 40 HCP
wi: on average, each player has 10 HCP
be: a deck = full set card?
wi: any questions up to this moment?
do: no question ...
wi: ok...here comes 2 questions from me
wi: 1) what is the max HCP that a player can get in hand?
do: 40
be: 16
wi: another answer?
do: wait
do: 37
wi: correct
be: 點計?
wi: please tell how to obtain it...
do: 4 A 4 K 4 Q and 1 J
do: total 13 cards
wi: 我都話dog係天才...
be: 我仲未明bor
be: 等我消化下先
bi: y only 1J?
wi: next what is the lowest HCP for a play hand
wi: 一手有13隻
be: 明咗
ni: oic
do: lowest should be 0?
bi: my answer is 0 too
do: 0
wi: ok...
si: wrong?
wi: correct...
do: ths ... keke
be: dog的心算好勁
do: no la
do: when i was young ... I played this game
be: 我還要找計算機計
do: now ... willy is recall my memory
wi: why HCP is so important?
do: HCP is vvv important
wi: 1) HCP is commonly used in modem bridge bidding system
do: there are minimum HCP to bid
wi: 2) HCP helps u to decide what level of contract you can make...
do: haha ... point 1 is no need to learn?
do: just understand is ok?
wi: by statistics, if one side (2 players) get 24-25 HCP...
wi: then in most of the case, a NT game or a Major can be fulfilled
wi: remember what is a NT game and Major game?
be: 唔知.
si: No trump
wi: NT game = 3NT
wi: Major game = 4H/4S
wi: however for a minor game...
wi: the HCP point required are about 26-27+
wi: Recall your memory, what is a minor game?
do: no idea
wi: all no idea?
be: 唔知.
wi: niko?
ni: NO
wi: good...
wi: major = S/H
wi: minor = D/C
do: o...
do: right ...
wi: for minor game means need to make a game contract for Diamond and Club suit
wi: willy1,so what is a minor game?
do: simondog,4D / 4C ?
wi: any other answers?
do: minor game also need 26-27+
do: I mean HCP
wi: minor game..means 5C/5D
do: o....
be: 我想問...
wi: yes?
be: 點解NT係3, MAJOR係4, MINOR係5?
wi: 呢個同個scoring方法有關....
be: 我淨係知... 3NT = 40 + 30 + 30
wi: 要計合約完成的基本分
wi: 基本分有100或以上為一個game
wi: 還有問題嗎?
be: 有, 我還是不明白何謂contract?
wi: contract 就係當你完成了bidding stage...最後的那個叫品...
wi: 沒問題, 就講slam同HCP的關係
wi: 之前我有提過small slam同grand slam
wi: small slam即合約為level 6
wi: grand slam 則為 level 7
wi: HCP 31+ 就可以打small slam...
wi: HCP 35+ 就可以打grand slam
do: Wa
be: wa, 玩這個game 一定要帶計數機先至得
wi: 打牌成功與否, 除咗要計HCP, 和牌型也有關係
do: wi ... a question
be: 什麼是牌型?
wi: 但牌型沒有一定的簡易rule...計算...所以一般bidding system都唔用....
do: if got HCP31 ... MUST play small slam or no need ?
wi: yes
do: so . .. u need to notify people?
wi: 無一定, should be said.....worth to try
wi: no
wi: 手上有HCP...係唔需要比人知....
do: ok...if result get 12 tricks = small slam
be: trick = ?
do: be ... open this la
do: http://www.weweweb.net/game/webpage/bri ... html#basic
wi: 中文叫墩....即贏多少輪...
do: can play ma?
wi: ok...現在講bidding....
do: C-T
do: come
wi: ok...
be: 如何知邊個開始先?
do: ni
do: ni....
wi: 一般叫牌會用一個bidding system...
ni: 死我唔係好識bid
be: 係咪N開始先?
wi: 出面有好多種
wi: 最common就係Natural System
wi: 你地就先學Natural 喇....
be: 你可否用"wi2"身份看看我們的牌, 俾些意見應該點bid?
wi: 唔可以
wi: 自己叫...
wi: 打橋牌要有主見....
wi: 係weweweb度有三份netural system 既notes...
be: 唔識bid, 揀個pass應該死唔去
wi: 好似第二份, 好啲.....
ni: hehe...我都唔想死
do: haha ... >.<
do: die jor la
wi: 你地下次....用果份...跟著試下叫
be: 係咪有3個pass就會bid完?
wi: 係...
be: 請問係現階段, 我係咪要揀張牌大過dog嗰張?
do: Yes
si: 唔係
si: u can try
si: if u can find the card larger than 10 ... ok gar
be: 哦, 原來係要首要揀番同花
wi: A最大 ...你冇乜可能可以大過佢
do: bigger than A
be: 宜家應該揾乜嘢牌出先好? 係咪揾張至大既?
be: 我想問... 點解我只見到dog啲牌?
be: niko, 你見到邊個啲牌?
ni: wi,你琴日話up tricks只係某d情況先會加分, 咁呢舖會唔會?
do: HAHA
ni: nikompy,我見到dog
wi: 係初學就咁緊張..唔好架
do: WE SURE DOWN NIKO
be: 咁係咪所有人都見到dog既牌?
wi: 會...會加好咁... 因為redouble 咗
ni: hehe....我都係想因返,如果係既話我羸多d冇所謂
ni: o...
be: repeat question: 點解我哋會見到dog既牌?
wi: 你指係 niko
be: 唔係.. 我同niko都見到dog既牌
wi: 係bor...dog...
wi: dog 係dummy嗎
do: my card ... OPEN to everybody gar
do: I can see my partner CARD
be: 咁係咪每枱有1個dummy, 3個declarer? (註: dummy個partner係declarer, 佢兩個對手就叫defenders)
...
一輪實習後, 大家既橋藝又進步了不少.

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Re: 橋牌教室 (四)

Postby beaniebean » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:48 pm

嘩... 我原來係有上到第四堂... 看完啲對話, 有番啲印象...

今日睇番... 又明白多咗好多... 原來我當日問咗咁多白痴問題 :lol: :lol: :lol: , 其實最高領導人已好有耐性去解答. 好多謝你呢 :D ~

唔... 等我遲啲睇多幾次再總結吓先.

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Re: 橋牌教室 (四)

Postby wayway » Fri May 07, 2010 3:24 pm

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